"Old-Busted-Hotness" (old-busted-hotness)
06/05/2020 at 22:11 • Filed to: None
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"Old-Busted-Hotness" (old-busted-hotness)
06/05/2020 at 22:11 • Filed to: None | 2
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One year and 3,000 miles ago I had the transmission rebuilt. This is what I found in the pan yesterday.
Why did I drop the pan? Because from Day One it never shifted right when it was cold. The colder it was, the longer it hung in First. Rebuilder told me to keep driving it, it’ll free up. Winter was horrible. Sometimes I’d get where I was going before second gear came in. “Oh, just put some more miles on it.”
Even the initial fluid check when I got it home from the trans shop had black deposits on the dipstick. As you can see it’s only gotten worse from there.
AOD’s are said to run clean when running right. There’s a glob of metal in the pan the size of a dime. Fluid should be bright red, not dark gray. So that was a short career for a transmission.
I’m not giving the guy that did this another chance. Warranty means jack if I can’t trust the work. Fool me once, and all that. I ge t enough bullshit and lies without going to him for more.
Took it to another trans shop, a more professional outfit. I viewed the remains, and they’re not pretty. Burnt clutches, burnt bands, drums blackened from heat. No idea as to possible causes beyond “some sort of pressure issue.” Since this isn’t my original transmission (as the first guy said it was) we have no idea where it came from or what it suffered before the botch job. Therefore we are starting over with an unmolested core.
There goes my Coronabucks.
The parts needed to make the AOD completely bulletproof are now rare and pricey. Since I’m not hooning it, I decided against dropping the extra $700 for the later 2-inch band, drum and sun gear setup and we’ll rebuild it stock, carefully and correctly. When that’s all done, it’ll have a 3/36 warranty.
Sigh.
RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
> Old-Busted-Hotness
06/05/2020 at 22:53 |
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I feel your pain from shoddy worksmanship....my car goes in for bodywork on Monday to get shitty rust repairs a guy did to it last year RE-fixed after what he did both rusted back out in the same place in less than 9 months (one of which started rusting out again after 2.5 months...)
pip bip - choose Corrour
> Old-Busted-Hotness
06/06/2020 at 00:38 |
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that’s some dod gy work
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Old-Busted-Hotness
> RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars
06/06/2020 at 05:42 |
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I’m especially peeved because the trans rebuild is the only thing I farmed out, other than evacuating/charging the AC. All of MY bodged repairs have held up. As much as I hate spending the extra money, I hate doing the same job twice even worse.
Thisismydisplayname
> Old-Busted-Hotness
06/06/2020 at 07:20 |
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I just got done rebuilding my trans for my Dakota. Haven’t finished hooking it back up yet and I’m a bit nervous that somethings going to go wonky. Hopefully not, but hopefully today I will have it filled and give it a test drive.
I wonder why yours burnt the clutches up so quick? I wonder if they didn’t get the proper amount of clutches put back in, or missing a shim or something like that.
The carnage in mine was pretty interesting. Only the front drum clutches were burnt up, but they were burnt bad and deformed. And I had a plastic shim that was melted and worn to about a 1/10th it’s original thickness. A busted governor spring and cracked reverse servo piston. 177k miles, and not easy miles, will do that I guess ;). I can see how a rebuild can go bad though. Wouldn’t take much. Hopefully the second times the charm.
MrSnrub
> Old-Busted-Hotness
06/06/2020 at 10:59 |
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Since this isn’t my original transmission (as the first guy said it was) we have no idea where it came from or what it suffered before the botch job.
So he didn’t even rebuild it, just swapped in some other junk unit?
Roadkilled
> Old-Busted-Hotness
06/06/2020 at 12:22 |
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Did you take any photographs of the problems after disassembly at the second shop? Even if you didn’t, good statements and documentation from the second shop may provide enough evidence to use to file in Small Claims Court. There are no attorneys; just you, the defendant and the judge. The worst that can happen is you lose a small filing fee. If you are lucky, the owner of the first shop won’t show and you will will by default.
You basically would want to show the judge that the first shop didn’t just do a bad job, but that they misrepresented their work in rebuilding the transmission.
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Old-Busted-Hotness
> MrSnrub
06/06/2020 at 12:23 |
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Hard to tell. I bought it with a bad trans, and didn’t check the numbers before I dropped it off for the first rebuild. So the dodgy one could have been in there when I bought it. The torque converter has two weld beads around it, so it’s been rebuilt twice; originally they’re brazed. The case is a later E9, which came out in 1989; my car is a 1988. The internals seem to be a hodgepodge. The clutches I saw looked new, just burned up. So I’m gonna say it was rebuilt at some point, just not well.
Something is badly out of whack. My non-expert guess is that pressure isn’t getting to the servos, or bleeding off once it does get there.
The critical pressure, from the throttle valve, was adjusted properly. Shifts happened when they were supposed to, and kickdown worked fine (when the trans was warm).
The shop I have it at now is a lot more professional, but they’re not forensic techs. They can see what’s wrong, but can’t guess why and can’t spend time to find out, unless I want to pay for that time, which doesn’t come cheap. At least they have a core they’re willing to give me, so we have a known starting point.